Cloud 9. I have some plots in east central MN and after the frost in mid Aug the deer hammered the brassicas. Just the tops not the tunups. The deer kicked a few up and it looks like they tasted them but did not eat them. Maybe after the ground get colder and the tunups themselvs freeze the deer will start eating them. This is the first year of planting plots for me and the biggest draw so far during hunting season has been the brass and rye. My buddy stuck a nice fat doe opening morn in the brass. The rye looks like a deal at $6 for 50lbs. and no need for lime.