Went to the dealer and had a sit down. Walked through all possible things that I could be doing and the bow could be doing. After this discussion...we started creeping.

First tried increasing the twist to bottom by 1 turn. This expanded my gap from 6-8" to 10". (BTW, I'm not attempting to creep my draw forward for testing...I'm just sitting comfortably at wall...or really pulling against it)

We then went back to in sync, and then out by 1 turn, and that put me at about a straight 5-6" gap.

Finally, we went out 1/2 twist more.

This gave me a 2" gap. I was kinda worried, because now I could get some droppers...if I held at the first wall I feel, the gap jumps to about 10".

After I sat and pondered a minute, I figured out what's going on. Being 1 1/2 twist out of sync, I can discern when one cam turns, then the other. If I pull to the first "wall" of the first cam coming over, I'll shoot oh, 10" low of poa. But, if I pull to the second wall (when both cams have turned) I'm on poa. If I then pull to the second wall...and reef against it, I'll maybe shoot 2" high of poa at 20 yds.

I will shoot it this way at the range tomorrow...I think I can go with this.

When the bow was in full sync, if I let my bow arm relax at all from being at the wall (and not reefing against it), the cams will try and pull the release out of my hand....there's no valley or wiggle room

With the cams now being this much out of sync...I know that if the bow is pulling my release away from me...I'm only at the first wall and have to come to the next bump (this is kinda making a valley for me where the in-sync bow has none).

We'll see how I do tomorrow.

Guys with dualies who've creep tuned....how much out of sync are you? Can you discern two bumps...or didn't you have to come that far out of whack?