thanks to everybody for your help and am happy--more like ecstatic to report that got my hands on the m77 7mmwsm yesterday went to the range with the cheapest shells i could get--win 150 pps-gun performed great--went back to the range today with federal acubonds 160gr five out of first six shots cut the holes--absolutely could not believe it--had less than an inch of paper to move the crosshairs until i was where i wanted to be--over compensated a couple of times-cut three more pairs of holes along the way. by the end of the box had it dead solid perfect with three holes touchin each other--still can't believe it --never had a rifle shoot that good. Thank you for your support--there is more shootin to be done--it was too much fun.