We've been practicing together since early June. He's doing pretty well for his first year. He's shooting good groups 30 and 35 yards. After that they start to spred a little. This is practice only. He knows he's limited in range...25 yds. is absolute max. 20 is alot better. Once in a while he tends to torque the bow a tad. But that is expected of a 13 year old.