Thanks guys - I guess I have a bad habit of over-tinkering with my bows. What brought me to the bare shaft tune issue was that my broadheads are dead-on with my field points at 20 yds, but when I shoot them at 35 yds, they are dead center (windage) -- but are 3-4" below my field points. When I paper tuned - I had a nock-high tear of about 1/8" (with fletching). When I bare-shaft tuned, the tear became more like 3/8-1/2 inch high. I just like things to be perfect - a never ending battle. I will start from scratch - even tiller, reset the WB to dead center, and level the nock with the rest and go from there.