Thats why its called hunting!!! Don't feel bad Chubber. I had an uncle who hunted 40 years before he got his first deer. I persosnally hunted several years before getting one, course there were not near as many deer 45 years ago, as we now have here in PA.

I hunted VA several years in the early 90's, and only got one small doe, and a bob cat. Now the bobcat is a trophy, and much harder to come by (if hunting for them), than a deer, and I love & appreciate that cat, but it still was not what I was looking for.

If you stick with it, it will fall into place when you least expect it to. The early muzzleloader season is a great time to be out. The deer still are so spooked up, as later when more people go afield, and you can hunt them on a bit "more even ground".

If you can afford it, by all means get into the black powder thing. Its a ball! I love it, and especially down there where you can use the precussion, or even inlines. Here in PA we MUST use flintlock's. You pull the trigger, count to five, for it to fire, and hope it goes off.......................

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