I finally got the bow that I absolutely wanted two years ago. I was very pickey and had everything planned out ahead of time. Bowtech pro38, MZE, copper johns, beman ICS etc... To buy everything brand new it would have cost me right around $1000. I just looked around and got lucky. A tech at my local bowshop had one already set up exactly to these specs and sold it to me for $500 complete. He already had a few bowtechs and didn't shoot this one much. The only problem is that I'm dying to get a new one already.