Hey BowTec guys you got to admit this is one ugly S.O.B!!! This is the first time I have ever seen a patriot and I got to say <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle> YUCK <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle> Maybe its grows on you over time. What are those 10&quot; limbs and a 40&quot; riser? I know looks don't effect the performance but DAMN!