dude, all i said was i was there and the bow didn't slip in the press and hit the metal. i'm taking in what is said, and continuing the conversation. perhaps you read my post with a different inflection than i intended because you are definately going somewhere using your own road signs and not our conversation. but its cool and i appreciate your and nubo's and matt's, and everyone elses input. thanks everyone. i'll let y'all know what happens tomorrow. i haven't heard about this before either, and with all the presses and all the bowtechs out there and all the people pressing their own, that does lead me to think it just may be the bow - or this would be more common - but it could be me, or the press at the shop - i'd really like to find out though.