i will be watching this post closely. i have been a scent-lok hunter now for 4 years and before that i never really saw any deer. same area and everything that i was doing before. i was going to buy the whole scent lok jump suit liner but i am not sure. i shower every time before i go hunting and not having something like scent-lok on me kinda makes me feel naked. now this might have been advertising sunk into my brain but i don't know. the one guy said something about making a home made pine scent cover spray. i think this would be the key in my area because it is 75% pine thickets. keep this thread going cause i will be watching...thanks