ORIGINAL: .358
I want to load some for my BAR 30-06 but am hesitant as many say you need the right buring rate powder. What are some powders one could use in my autoloader to get top vel. ie match factory loads also does one have to crimp the bullets for the autoloader ? Any loads you might suggest would be appreciated.
BigBob .30-06, halcon, Briman, .358
I was doing a search on "Game Kings" and came across this thread. I just recently got a BAR 30-06 and had the very same question about "slow burning" powders and Semi-Auto's as I had read so much about it on various fourms, including this one, with the general consensus being.......use "medium" burn rate powders only!
I was planning to load some Sierra 180Grn Game Kings and someone had recommended trying IMR-4831, which definitely is NOT in the "Medium" burn rate category. In fact, it's a little slower than IMR-4350 & H-4350. I've shot a lot of IMR-4350 in my gun, BUT, just to be on the safe side, I called Sierra's Ballistic Services department (1-800-223-8799). I told them I was going to be loading the 180grn Game King and wanted to know if using the slower IMR-4831 could potentially damage my BAR. In short,
I was told that the Browning BAR could handle any powders listed in the various load manuals as long as you stay within the recommended Min / Max loads. The Browning BAR is designed to take it!
So....I loaded em up! Sierra 180grn Game Kings on top of IMR-4831 with Remington brass & Fed 210 primers.
Went to the range with them today and am happy to say that......
My 30-06 BAR Really Likes 180Grn Sierra Game Kings & IMR-4831!!!
I just got to say....
WOW!
Started with 52Grns of IMR-4831 and worked up to 57.5Grns in .5Grn increments. (12 Groups @ 3 shots each @ 100 Yds) Out of the 12 groups, 7 groups were sub MOA with the smallest being 0.511" CTC. There were 3 flyers in 3 different groups which were definitely me, and not the gun. The other two MOA+ groups were the 52.0 & 52.5 grn groups.
Overall average group size (including the flyers) was 1.092"CTC. Excluding the groups with the 3 flyers (which I know you can't really do) the overall average was 0.821"CTC.
GRN----CTC
52.0---1.235
52.5---1.157
53.0---0.511
53.5---1.596*
54.0---2.823*
54.5---0.829
55.0---0.646
55.5---0.846
56.0---0.761
56.5---0.620
57.0---1.300*
57.5---0.781
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AVG:---1.092
(* Includes 1 flyer)
Gota say I sure am happy to see this gun shooting sub MOA. I had read a lot of folks saying that their BAR's shoot sub MOA, but I just wasn't getting there with the Nosler Ballistic Tips. Tried both the 180 & 165 grn BT's and just couldn't break that 1" mark. Of course, those were the only 2 bullets I'd tried prior to the Game Kings and with both of those I was using IMR-4350.
The BAR cycled with no problems what-so-ever using the IMR-4831 and now that I've found at least one excellent hunting load, I can take my time and try out some other bullets / powders. I've never owned, shot, or reloaded for a Remington Semi-Auto so I would NOT even begin to say anything one way or the other as to the use of slower burning powders in that gun. But as far as MY 30-06 BAR is concerned, the Sierra Game Kings and the IMR-4831 are keepers.
firstshot