i shot a starling and he got it and brought it to me. it was minced meat when i got it but hey its a start. after he did that i went and got a frozen quail that i was going to have mounted from last year. i tossed it in the brush when he wasnt looking then walked with him down wind about 20 feet. he caught the scent and found and retieved the bird to hand everytime. needless to say i am excited