There are some other changes you may not be aware of.

There is NO MINIMUM draw weight requirement in the state of Kansas either. No isn't that just great?

The requirement for the Safe Hunting certificat has changed as well. I M not sure when it goes in effect, but you can pay a few extra dollars and then hunt.

This was brought about to reform the Hunter Ed. program in Kansas as well. You could not become an instructor because of a good old boys arrangement. Seems you had to be an archery hunter affiliated with IBEF or KBA or you would not be allowed to become a Hunter Safety instructor.

As far as I M concerned the archery crowd in Kansas has little to bitch about. They got what they deserved. They put alot of people over the barrel and when fought they claimed we were "anti-hunting". What BS! It is true, things will never be the same for archery hunters in Kansas, but they will get better for 5-6 times as many gun hunters in the next few years. I was only a small part of the push. However it was not the outfitters!! The influence in KDWP has changed from KBA to Outfitters because they have more money. Most of the proposals originated in the KDWP, and not at Sec. Hayden's doorstep, but classified employees who used to be affiliated with KBA.

So in the end KBA got sold out by their own people within the KDWP. LOL

BTW, the largest group against allowing non-resident access to permits historically was not the outfitters, but Kansas Bowhunters. That's why it has been so hard for non-residents to hunt in Kansas. They once had a voice, but it has been confronted, and those that were with it sold themselves out and KBA.