No heavy shot here either.[:'(] Why bother, Winchester 2oz. #5's are a perfect match to my Mossberg 835U with ported Mad choke.....my farthest is 45 yards but my friend shot a superb longbeard at 55 yards with my gun without a flinch from the bird. I sighted in my scope and the wad full of shot went through 3/4" T111(plywood) at just shy of 20 yards....with that pattern, I need the bird out there a little farther...ouch.