RE: any way to know scope relief .
Hey Burnie
Check out the Simmons AETEC 2.8-10 X 44 scope. I have 2 of them one on a 444 and the other on a 35 Whelen. No probs at all with either and the relief is optimum at 5" They are also a nice scope for the money (1/2 of the Luepold prices) I know this will stir alot of noise like ya get what ya pay for and I feel I did and then some. Got some 300 rounds thru the 444, traded the 35 Whelen away to a bud and he has put a couple hundred rounds thru it after I shot it a bunch and both scopes are AOK. Very satisfied w/ the AETEC and dont see any reason to do a refinance to own a scope. JMO