You miss my point. I guess you havn't slept for days after that first deer you couldn't find. Give me a break. I never said don't look for the deer nor did I say take a foolish shot. All I said was take the shot you feel comfortable with. Bottom line the deer are out of control in many areas. They are killed in huge numbers by the cars on the street. Even those don't go to waste because the critters eat them too. I frankly only hunt huge mass and hunt where I will see mass every time out. I can get meat any day of the week. I just assume donate to Hunters for the Hungry. I toy with the deer beneath me. It's fun to grunt at them as they bed beneath me or drop something on their head. That seems to freak them out. But when I shoot, I drop'em.