I think your feeling i'm down on the 280 and I assure you I'm not, it's a great rifle.The 280 is a caliber. I am ,niether down on the STW,just using common sense. But no way in H*ll does it even come close to the all-around performance of the STW..Who said it (280 Rem) was a better all around cartridge? Aparently you never used it much or you just never had one to be talking that way.Apparently you can not read, been shooting one since 89! I don't care about the powder, noise, or recoil, I can afford all 3.Above it was posted that the 7mmUM used more powder for no gain...BS, if you can afford all 3 then get a 7mm Ultra(surely you can greatly improve with hand loading :-) Your not talking to a person who fell of the tater truck about these rifles and reloading them.Oh Really? I'll take the +5" or +400 ft. any day of the week. What's +400 ft.?..errrrr foot pounds of Energy?As of yet I've not seen the 280 produce the speeds that are published, have you? I own 2 of them (Rem & A-Bolt) and neither, no matter how I load them will get there. I guess that it's written in stone, if I______ (fill in the blank) cant achieve ______ published velocities no one can.

I can tell you this as fact.. the STW WILL produce speeds well in access of what is published, bet you knew that too?Access what?....oh, I see,your rifle can reach speeds over the published velocites in the STW so now it's FACT that the(all) STW can??? (at what kind of chamber pressures? This is about the 7Mag catagory and not the 7mm Express (ie .280).You got me on this one.....you really know your stuff (ie. 7mm Express = 280