It’s all stuff they’ve read online, haven’t experienced, and regurgitate without any interest in fact checking.

Another false myth they propagated here - which sure sounds good on the internet - is that the “6.5 Grendel offers the same terminal ballistics as 308win.” This myth is a misrepresentation of the similar TRAJECTORY” possible with 123grn Grendels beside 168grn 308’s… but the heavy 30 cal will hit far, far harder at the “terminal” end. This myth gets so contorted online that some folks even have plotted kinetic energy for 123 Grendels against 130grn 308’s - which nobody would use for long range hunting, or really anything but plinking anyway - to show that at ~900 yards, the kinetic energies of both are similar… ignoring the fact the 308 started with nearly twice as much energy at the muzzle… not the same…

Also disappointing in this post is the fact the podcaster didn’t acknowledge the workaround the industry took on to commercialize the 6.5 Grendel before Bill came to his senses and released the trademark on the name - Les Baer Customs released the 264 LBC as an identical cartridge, such barrel manufacturers could market products without infringing. Some companies still mark their barrels this way to avoid giving credit to Alexander for the BS name game he played for almost a decade.

And equally disappointing to be missing between the history of these two is the jockeying in market position which happened over this time. Alexander’s trademark game retarded market acceptance of the 6.5 Grendel, so for the first half of their lives, the 6.8 SPC II enjoyed considerably greater market presence. There were non-AR rifle models offered in 6.8 SPC by multiple makers, far more ammo and brass manufacturers, and even more bullets specifically designed for the 6.8’s impact velocities than were available for 6.5 Grendel. However, the long range revolution of 2010 - especially the 6.5mm craze driven by the introduction of the 6.5 Creedmoor, coinciding with Bill’s release of his trademark finally gave the 6.5 Grendel the shot in the arm it needed to overtake the SPC as the preferred cartridge between the two. Unfortunately, of course, both lost their dominating marketshare at that time with the introduction of the 300 Blackout. But in 2022, the Grendel has won the war over the 6.8 SPC. Both remain in the top few most popular AR cartridges, but the Grendel stands tall over the SPC today.

I also think anyone writing THIS article in 2022 should acknowledge the fact these two were really the first non-5.56/223 AR-15 cartridges to have commercial success, and were such for quite some time. These cartridges were released at the very end of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban, perfectly positioned to hit the market when America’s Rifle could finally be enjoyed en masse in proper form - so for the first time in history, a casual shooter saying they wanted to buy an AR would actually have a choice in chambering. The 50 Beowulf and 458 Socom were footnotes in conversations, but with their own trademark and proprietary ownership issues - and niche application market which was also eventually shared by 450 Bushmaster, they didn’t enjoy anywhere near the market prevalence of the Grendel and the SPC. These two were “Coke and Pepsi,” totally dominating the non-5.56/223 AR market for almost a decade before the Blackout came out - which is why they are being used as the parent cartridges for AR derived mini cartridges today, like 6 ARC, 22 Nosler, and 224 Valkyrie.

These two are among the top handful of cartridges I have the greatest familiarity - thousands on thousands of rounds of each over the last ~18yrs, and a couple dozen rifles of my own and those I’ve built for customers and others. This is a tired topic which was well settled over a decade ago - it could have been retold well in this era, but it wasn’t done well here.

The frustrating part for me - these guys are putting time and energy into these blog/podcast topics, and they’re profiting from them. They should at least try a little harder to AT LEAST find an experienced person as a content editor to help stop them from saying stuff so often which makes them look dumb and inexperienced.