Hehehehe. I know how ya feel RR. Bears that walk on broken front shoulders and broken rear hips. Penn must have the toughest bears in the world. Most bear hunters talk about shooting them in a shoulder to break it and anchor the bear. Apparently not in Pennsylvania. and if you break a bear's shoulder in PA, that 3 legged bear will chase you down and attach you, whatever that means. Then there's bear biologists who know how to kill bears best with rifle or pistol. They must have some interesting classes to get their degrees. I get confused reading the posts between what he's personally experienced and what he's been told by other people or read. A person can do a lot in 50 years but selling millions of rounds of ammo, selling apparently numerous guns of every caliber, not to mention owning several Glock 10mms (why stop at one) and all of the hunting and biological forays in Penn, Alaska and who knows how many other states. You're right RR, he wins. Can't make it up better than that.