Originally Posted by hardcastonly

https://www.smith-wesson.com/product...617?sku=160578

https://ruger.com/products/markIVSta...ets/40105.html

Ive found both of these handguns to be helpful and useful in training my sons ,
when I was first teaching them to handle firearms safely


these rifles are also good quality

https://ruger.com/products/1022Carbi...eets/1133.html

https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-457-american/