So I am still confused a little bit. are ya' ll saying the ics hunters are as good as the a/c/c' s? are the a/c/c' s worth the extra mola or do I need to suck it up and continue to buy new ICS hunters. Also, are there any extra tips for selecting shafts in the store? I have just been randomly picking 6 at a time and take them home and fletch them up. another question does it matter in consistency where you place your cock feather. thanks for the info.