That's the hardness I kind of expected to see. It is also the hardness I try to get most of my maxi's at. Decent expansion without total flattening to get good penetration. And yes MountainDevil I am of the clan of 2 holes are always better than one. While internal hemorrhaging is nice and will usually kill well, it is nice when you have 2 holes leaking externally in case you hit one of those stubborn animals that don't figure out they are dead until they have run half a mile through the thickest crap on Earth. Dad taught us all well in tracking but the only one of all 5 of us even close to his skill level was Alex. We all figure since she was the runt of the litter, her being closer to the ground attributes to her skill level. So I want the most blood I can achieve.