WOW! when federal & barnes hooked up to make a slug for the savage 220 20 gauge same slug as remington is producing they were 12.00 a box of 5. @ remingtons price thats 6.00 a slug. myself i liked the barnes expanders for my savage 220 shot great & penatration was excellant.at that price i believe i would go with a muzzleloader& use 290 tez bullets in states that allow shotgun & muzzies during gun season. but here in ohio now we can use straight wall cartridges. i myself use a 450 bushmaster in a ruger ranch rifle. more accurate, less pain to shoot & about 1.25 a bullet to shoot. which i see now that remington is making a 450 bushmaster bullet in accrutip. can't wait to see that price. looks like remington is trying to get rich real fast.