I know what you mean. My gun safe once had nothing but Rems in it because they were great guns. Today, except for a couple old models, including a 700, 870, 11-87 and a 572, my safe now has many other brands that I consider better than Remington. I know there are still some Rem fans out there but we are each entitled to our own opinion. Today if I were to have to buy a Rem rifle it would likely only be a 700 CDL.