Yeah, tried out a Rize and a Centergy Hybrid. The Rize I didn't like at all. The Centergy felt pretty good but didn't have the balance I like. Rollover was smooth and the wall was like a brick but I didn't like the feel of the follow through. Probably something I could easily adapt to if I ever fell away from my BowTechs. But at my age, I aint going to be pulling a bow much longer so my BowTech Experience will be my last compound I'm sure. Probably be coming over to your place and borrowing your crossbow before long