thanks i ve seen some big deer lately some that will tip the scale to 250 lbs live weight but those are bucks most of the does do go around 130. but yesterday had 4 small does ( yearlings that none of them went over 50 lbs ) pass with 20 yrds of me & no i won't shoot them . pisses me off that somebody shot their momma in which myself would all pass won't kill a doe with babies. well they looked @ me & just staired like they were asking have you seen our mom ? kinda felt sorry for them