for the money primos gets the nod for me!!!have 30 cams so far they're the best have had Moultrie (there for sale, night pics suck )spypoint (good but 2/3 less pics than primos)cudiebacks (lots problems ) no manufactory service threw it away!!!wildgame (junk )battery problems light on pi count!!!the best camera for the money primo's blackout I use the big one natchez has the best buy on them !!! I even bought two refurbished there two years ago !!!still working bought two ultras blackout not sur but I got more pics on the d cameras than the double aa models but they say lithium are the way to go way to expensive for me!!! don't buy the extra power pack for the ultras they suck !!! you can get them for under $150 ($125) $100 for big ones !!! They catch everything even birds & mice !!! simple to use Wilbur!!!






















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