I have replaced my 3-1/2" winchester supreme #5s with the new long beard shells. They shot real well out of my 870 with pure gold choke. They'll definitely kill a turkey at 40 yards, which is as far as I'll be shooting more than likely. I would be confident in taking a 50 yard shot with these shells if I had to, but shooting farther than 50 yards with any possible gun/choke/shell combo is out of the question for me.