I will admit the first deer in this post when I saw him I thought for sure near the 160" mark, he was 80 yards away and caught me off guard, but when I got my hands on him I knew he was in the 130" range, two none certified scores scored him at 130" another at 131" I think he is, buckscore.com over scored him at the mid 150s. All the other deer after the kill I estimated their score just by looking and I was near the mark of their true scores.