Originally Posted by bghunter777

Ok here me out fellas I feel we have become more civil and full circle on this discussion. Going back to the original intent. Assuming I can get acceptable patterns with 5s at 50 yards I feel that I do maybe not 100 in a 10 inch circle but I can't imagine a bird getting through the pattern.

I realize you feel 60 pellets in the spine is better than 30 but the turkey can only be so dead. At least follow this logic as you stated you would not trust 7s energy at 60 yards and assuming I kill 100 percent of birds at 50 yards with 5s then ultimately what has 7s added. And we have all agreed that 5s carry much more energy so one could argue that it give you a better chance to kill that bird at 60 plus. You have both admitted 7s don't have the needed energy. This is not meant to change your minds or argue just trying to show you my original logic and even if you disagree you can at least acknowledge the argument.