That's what we are are trying to tell you here. Have you ever watched the Matrix? There's a part in that movie where Morpheus tells Neo(The One) that there's a big difference from walking a path and knowing the path. That will apply here exactly to the t. Your Hevi-13 5's in either 3.5" 2.25oz or 3" 2oz are not going to give you 100 pellets in a 10" at 50yds tape measured. I don't think that I know that. So does Todd. We have been there. I would say you would do good to have 60 pellets in a 10" on most shotguns and whatever choke you use. Most guns do good with those loads to even give 130 in a 10" at 40yds taped. And that's a great pattern of 5's. And some will do good to give you 110 at 40yds. So even if you get 130 at 40yds, you are going to lose 80 to 100 more pellets at 50 in the 10". So now what you have is 30 to 50 pellets in the 10" at 50yds. Now you shoot a turkey with that kind of pattern, and I don't care who you are or how much confidence you or anyone else as in their gun or that kind of pattern it's not going to always hit vitals on the head and neck of a turkey every shot. It will be more luck or chance than anything whether or not that turkey dies, and a lot of chance that it will run off wounded more than likely if you do the math with your 10" results when you simply put don't have the sufficient numbers with that load of 5's in your gun to be shooting a turkey at that distance.