I'd be willing to bet I don't care enough about what you think to spend 40 dollars on a box of ammo and a day of my time at a range. i have shot my set up in the past and have full confidence in any shot I would take. I have a life and career I don't even live where my guns are kept and quite frankly have other things going on I gave a real life example of watching two turkeys this past season killed 1 almost flipped over forward at 65 and the other stone dead at 75. I currently live and work in NYC but travel several weeks a year to turkey hunt. you can continue to dispute my claims if that makes you feel better but please let it go and move on you care a little to much about this. I have no horse in the race I didnt take the shot I didn't even range find it to be honest I was calling on both occasions and a simple witness and trusted the other gentlemen who did range both shots that he was telling the truth what I do know for certain is it was far and the Hevi #13 shot #5 was impressive I'm doubting a load of 7s would have had the same effect and as my original post intent see little value at any range we all agree is normal #7s Hevi shot add. I have shot my set up at 50 yards and feel it will kill a turkey just as dead as any #7 load will but in that rare circumstance I misjudge a shot I personally think although less pellets the added KE of 5 shot gives you a higher likelyhood of taking a bird at longer ranges.