Thanks...I have the big ones kind of boiled down to about 7 different spots...They are consistently showing up on the depth finder..I was out there today after a cold front blew through...not one bite...Really anything lighter than a 13 won't work for me...Prizes don't start getting real good until you get a 13 pounder..So..my work is cut out for me..Shiners are lecal..but 17.50 a dozen ..NO THANKS..I'll be cranking and worming.