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Old 05-14-2012 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunplummer
I would like to see where a Pennsylvania forested mountain is dieing of old age. A 3 foot thick oak is just getting started.
Take a drive up in Clinton Co along the right branch of Hyner Run and you will see the oaks wasting away. A 3' thick oak just getting started! What are you smoking?

Excuse me, but I am really pissed off at the GC and DNR in Pa. We told them something has been attacking the laurel for years and they talk down to you and say it is the deer eating it. Well NOW, the laurel has a blight. I guess they could not see the orange spots on the leaves 15 years ago because of all the deer in the way.
Now this I agree with you 100%. A bit sarcastic - but truthful.
All that nonsense about the herd being out of balance. In the heavy wooded areas I actually think it was 50-50 buck to doe 40 years ago. Only a 3 day doe season but it was a slaughter.
Nonsense - there were always more doe than buck. That is the reason for the increase anterless allotment.
Enough to keep up with the buck kill. If you shot a young doe it was a good chance it was a button buck. Now it is screwed up beyond belief (And maybe repair) in a lot of places.
Here you are right.
What in the world makes people think there should be more buck than doe in a herd?
A 1 - 1 ratio is ideal. No one said anything about more buck than doe.
I doubt they could manage a hot dog stand even with the DNR helping.
The problem with the PGC is that they don't listen to the people that are out in the wood from Sept - Jan.
There are deer out there. But their numbers are way way down. I believe they are almost at the point of not being able to recover. My passion is archery and I use to let dozens of doe walk by me every year. Now, I am lucky to see a dozen all season. And I have several stand locations after serious preseason scouting an trail cams, etc. I manage to shoot a decent buck every year. And in the past 5 years, I have shot some really nice ones. But I worked my tail off for them.
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