Point well taken thank you for the advice. It was not posted. We went in on Corps land and some were we crossed over into there leased land. If at any time we would have known we would not have been there. The gentle man was on a power trip and was very hostile and degrading. He didnt have enough guts to face us and left as soon as we were called down to the Sheriff and the Game warden. They were very cordial and apoliging for haveing to write us the ticket but he was forcing it and they had to comply. It was the outfitters attitude that botherd me the most he did not have to be so degrading and try to provoke a fight. That is what I do not understand. I come from a farming family about 150 miles away so I do have respect and an understanding. Oh well all I can do is let people know what type of outfitter Deadmen Creek is. Not very good and hostile people on a power trip. That is what is the sadest. He was not happy to see two women out enjoying a sport he felt was a man' s sport.