Nobody is "bashing" the OP! He asked advice and is being offered same. The energy I mentioned was with a revolver and even with a rifle with the muzzle energy you mentioned he's not going to shoot them at 10 yards. What is the energy level at 100+ yards? Even with the newer Leverevolution it's down to 500 ft./lbs at 100 yards and that's no where near what knowlegeable people consider the energy needed to properly take a deer every time! Sure it may kill every one you shoot at and it may wound every one the next guy shoots because it's not a caliber that was intended for big game even though they now make that rifle. That's why I said to keep it under 100 yards if he absoutely has to use it. If he can't save enough over one years time to buy one box of bullets for his hunting rifle, I feel sorry for him, but his reasoning makes no sense when there are plenty of other rifle calibers he could go to that would suit his needs much better than the 357 and not break the bank! Cripes, now you're really making no sense when you start talking 22 calibers. I could kill one with a baseball bat if I was a good stalker, LOL! The 357 is and was meant as a close range self defense round. You're trying to tell us that one round fits all for his house handgun and then for his rifle to kill deer at 100 yards or more and I'll have to disagree every time. He could buy a 44 or some other caliber that's considered a good short range deer round, for example, and one box of the proper hunting rounds for the ranges he's talking about and he'd have both covered without spending $20 more than what he's proposing to do by using the same shells for home and hunting in the 357.