i use a single pin set at 20 yds, use fingers and no kisser button or peep sight.... the tip of index finger goes in nook of my nose just outside of my nostril just above my lip, if a deer is say 30yds out i drop my index finger down to the corner of my mouth, which adds 10yds to my pin set at 20yds. any closer then 20 yds i put all 3 fingers under the nock and shoot instintivly....... been shooting like that for over 20yrs and have over 30 deer to my credit.......but you have to practice with what each of you have as your setup.......