Aurther P, I apologize!!! I did not mean anything against anybody . I only meant what I said for me. I had a couple less than favorable shots with my Caribou. I get very excited when I see a deer I want to take and I have taken a couple of shots that were quartering away and if my arrow had more power I believe I would have taken these deer. With my new setup I am much more accurate and can put the arrow where I want it. I am not saying a Traditional archer is not a HUMANE hunter but only speaking for MY abilities. And as you said words printed here are VERY VERY VERY often taken the wrong way and if we were sitting here talking one on one things would be conveyed and received differently. I have probably taken more deer with a bow than the majority of the people reading these words. I only want a deer that I shoot at to be hanging on my meat pole and not laying in the woods. There is not much of a worse night for me than when I have put and arrow in a deer and not found it. I respect your opinions as when I see where you reply to something I read it!!! Hope you do not hold anything against me!!!