Yee Ha! I've never before started a thread just to stir things up for the fun of it (been kinda slow what with the heat and no one shooting much ). But this one even got a Super Moderator involved (sorry `bout that CalHunter ).

My only regret is it didn't draw Cayugad in. He never jumps in on the ugly ones. I am very suspicious of him because of that and suspect he is a shill for common sense and moderation.