Thanks for the replys. I would of thought that deer to be a little older. All these deer are shooters in my eyes... I know those does are residents and Ive watched them 2 years or so. But I seldom see bucks, last year in late dec, I had 5 show up and only a picture of each, few spikes, 1 non typical, and a big 8 (or seven- broken g3) and he had some mass too . I hunt a funnel that attaches to a powerline, so no telling how far those deer were traveling in search of a last hot doe. Also didnt think anyone hunted around me, opening day of muzzel loader it was obvious I was not alone, and anything walking was getting harvested. I think the rut was off and late last year.