When we got there we knew the water wsa stained but figured we might find some better. BUt that was actually the best. Worst i have seen in a long time. Had about a 10lb fish right next to boat swimming and all i could see was fin and really thought it was a shad. Shot it and it was in only 8" of water and i couldnt even see ts back. But there were alot of fish in the river and alot of them bigger big. Actually got 3 and they averaged prob 10 lbs or more. I think it was so dirty because the water was still and alot of fish in there. Then in the lake was a little better we could actually see some fish. But the average size was prob 2lbs at best. Some monster lb shad but i only got one that was like 3/4lb. In 4 hrs on the lake we might have seen 40 carp max and that generous. Wont be making that trip again!