RE: how long to rattle and grunt
i have grunted in two deera 8 point and a 6 point. The first time i grunted i used a series of grrrrrrrp grrrrp. Two or three times every hour. I did this and called in a doe and two little fawns, the fawns came no more than 10 yards away. It was a beatiful site. Well the does and fawns left so i grunted about 5 min later and sure enough up came a 6 point 25 yards away, easy shoting with a 30/.06. To grunt depends on weather and the mood the dee are in, i believe it is different in every county. But yes it is true that you should not grunt when the deer is looking right at you, they will surely spot you