So - whats the quote about ? you trying to prove me wrong ?

You hit the whole point striaght with ROUGHLY something that means almost, close too, nearly the same, shall I go on ? you posted the same reply as I had only in different wording and then come back and quote me as I was wrong ?

Sorry , but there is no way in hell, that a shell even a hevi shot with a choke >>> Hevi 13 3.5" 1 3/4oz of #6's 1090fps threw a jelly head choke<<<< if the Winchester HV traveling faster and shot through a >>>>>Win HV 3.5" 2oz #4's going 1300fps threw a Kicks GT...choke----

The difference is 210 FPS shot through a choke that I'm sure has a different tapper inside (Punch: the Price of the two chokes) let alone, maybe A different constriction that could cause also MUCH faster and higher energy factor at the target a pond impact.

Now if you want to get technical and being in the carpentry buisness and understanding materials and UV light along with age of material>>>> I found two pieces of 1/2" fire board <<<< that were found ,could also have a difference with the light, heat, UV rays, age that were hitting the one pc over the other could cause a difference in strength and I have seen this, but we will assume that this is not the case and that the difference that YOU and I had pointed out in the first place is only the ammo and choke type and constriction.

Please do not try and prove others wrong by quoting a reply

I do this for a living so I try not to get to technial with replies and only apply the common sence answers that direct to the problem or difference...