I have used Fiocchi® Golden Pheasant® loads for years when hunting pheasants and grouse. In that role, (Upland hunting) they performed superbly. I tried the Golden Turkey, aka Turkey Thunder, and they patterned terribly! I was using my Mossberg® Mdl 500A 12ga 3" Mag pump gun. Chokes were Carlsons® Extended Extra Full (.665") and Super Full (.660"). At 30 yds they were splotchy and uneven. Totally worthless IMHO.