Now that I have scoped most of my Renegade barrels the cheek abuse has almost stopped. But with open sights and a strong charge, give me a Hawkins any day. When I shoot I really get down into the stocks of my rifles. I have certain points on my face that need to touch the stock of the rifle a certain way. An old trick a shooter taught me was to put a band aid on the stock of the rifle where your cheek rests. And always make sure you can feel that band aid in the same place. It does actually improve my groups for me.