OH!!! i almost forgot to tell you that the big 180 we called junkmail (with the droptine) showed up finally after being gone for 3 months. also at another spot the double split g2 buck we were chasing last year showed up out of no where. now hes a 150 main frame 8 with both g2's split. the great thing is that now everyone is tagged out but me which leaves the biggins for me.