I guess I am never really satisfied with the accuracy of a rifle. If I was I would not be tinkering with them all the time.

With an open sight or 1x scope, if I can shoot 3-1/2 inches or under at 100 yards I will take that rifle hunting. At 50 yards, I want much better out of that rifle. And since all my shots are close, I get better.

With my scoped rifles I like to see at least a 2-1/2 or better group at 100 yards, but I strive for under an inch. Why I want to shoot these tight groups is just a sickness with me. But if the rifle will shoot under 2-1/2 inches, it can go hunting with me.

For me there is a big difference on how I think on the range VS in the woods. Also I want the best bullet for the job. One reason I like conical bullets. Even though I know and understand why some people love the sabot loads.. I just have a lot of faith with conical bullets.