I posted a thread last season about these bullets and I should have quit using them then but I had some left and I kept using them. Since I got my Encore about 3 -4 seasons ago I have killed 7 deer with these bullets. The problem is I never get a blood trail. If I don't see where the deer goes it's a crap shoot to find them. My first experience with this was 2 seasons ago when I shot a doe at 40 yards with snow on the ground. It went over 100 yards and not a drop of blood until it jumped over a creek and then started bleeding like crazy. Last year I shot a ten pointer and I again found zero blood. This morning I shot a doe at about 100 yards broad side. Then the smoke cleared I cold see the doe walking from the field it was in into the woods and it was dragging its front right leg. It walked into some trees that run along a creek. There is only about 30 yards of woods on each side of the creek and I never did find her. It is real think stuff along the creek so I am sure she went into this little thicket area and died buy we had 5 guys looking for a couple hours and not sign of her. I have never had a deer go more then 60 yards with this bullet but they don't bleed for some reason. I am not sure what the answer is but with a muzzle loader you don't always see where they go right away. I know my shot hit good today as when the smoke cleared I could still see deer was barely able to walk. We gave her about 45 minutes and never seen her again. If it happened once on a bad shot I can see but I have killed 7 deer with this gun and never (not one time) have I found a blood trail.