I usually dont outright trash a brand, but I bought a summit a couple years ago , the finish has almost all flaked off in spots where I didnt put tape, its loud as a busted chainsaw, it does not pack as flat as my API and it tends to wanna get stuck together, the climbing teeth are rounded not sharp so it slips on all but the softest bark and on wet bark. Oh did I mention, ITS LOUD!!!!!!! summit is crap get an API or lone wolf.