I don't use any scent at all until heavy pre-rut, like the chase phase. I don't want them to know I'm around before that. When the chase is going on I will use some Mrs. Doe Pee once in awhile, but only when I think it will help. When I do use the stuff and the doe's smell it.......there out of there, they don't like it. With that said, it's almost better to have doe's filtering by in hopes the bucks will be next.